Archive 2021

Ron Kennedy M.D. was our presenter Friday, January 22nd, via zoom.

Ron Kennedy, M.D., a doctor in the San Francisco Bay area, was our speaker Friday, January 22nd via zoom. 

When Dr. Kennedy returned home from a vacation and came through his front door, the house sitter, who had suffered a mental breakdown, attacked Dr. Kennedy with a knife, stabbing him repeatedly.

Dr. Kennedy will tell us what happened next, and his wonderful NDE.  His message is that even people who die in the most difficult of circumstances, like being murdered as he was, are loved by God, relatives who have passed on, and are never left alone.

Eloise Weaver presented Friday, February 26th via zoom

Eloise Weaver was our speaker Friday, February 26th. Eloise has had two brushes with death that erased the veil.

The first experience was when Eloise was nine or ten years old.  She had Rheumatic Fever and was very sick and bed-ridden for about three months.  One evening, her parents left her to take her little brother to the hospital because he had swallowed something.  Eloise was afraid and prayed for help.  Jesus came to see her, told her not to be afraid and cured her.  

The next experience occurred when Eloise, her husband and their daughter were in a terrible car accident while on vacation in Montana.  Eloise’s neck was broken and her husband was killed.  Eloise left her body and met with her husband’s spirit in the air.  He told her he was being called home but she had to stay and raise their daughters.

Rosemary Thornton Presented March 26th via zoom

Two years after Rose Thornton’s husband committed suicide, she was diagnosed with stage 2 cancer, and after a “minor medical procedure,” she returned to the emergency room and bled to “temporary death” and had no vital signs for 10+ minutes.

Assured by angels during her sojourn in the afterlife, Rosemary had a complete remission of cancer and rapidly healed from her medical trauma. She also had a healing from the grief of her husband’s earlier suicide. This profound NDE led her to completely transform her life.

For those looking for confirmation that NDEs are real, Rose’s atheistic neighbor who accompanied her to the emergency room heard an angel immediately after she flat lined who assured him that Rose would only be gone for a few minutes.

Rosemary’s book will be available for purchase sometime in mid April. Rosemary keeps a blog at http:\

Hila Baruch of Israel Presented April 23, 2021

Hila Baruch of Israel was our speaker Friday, April 23rd via zoom.

Hila is the founder of IANDS Israel and a former attorney. Hila’s original session was recorded. Her in-person answering of questions following the meeting can be found here.

Have you ever had the thought and/or feeling you’re more than who you currently know yourself to be? Hila Baruch’s story speaks to this very deep contemplation of self.

In 2014, Hila Baruch bled out following a “normal” surgery and had a near-death experience that changed her world. Having worked for years in Israel as a courtroom attorney, her experience left her with the knowledge that she is not who she thought she was and that she could no longer continue her work as before — realizations that were challenging at first but led ultimately to a real sense of freedom.

While coming to terms with her NDE, Hila discovered that Israel lacked sources of support for NDErs and felt called to create a local IANDS chapter to connect with other experiencers, raise public awareness, and provide support for those struggling with the aftereffects of similar episodes. “It’s very natural to get out of the body,” she says, “but getting back to it is another story… ”

This presentation was recorded because our meeting time occurs during Sabbath in Israel. Hila will conducted a live question and answer session May 23rd at 11 am.

Dave Austin presented Friday, May 28

Dave is a mental coach for U.S. Olympic athletes and has worked with the L.A. Dodgers, Texas Rangers, and other elite teams and individuals. Dave is also a highly sought-after speaker at corporate events by entrepreneurs and sales professionals.

Dave’s coaching abilities, in part, come from personal experience as an elite multi-sport athlete. A former professional athlete, world-ranked tennis player, Dave also played football and baseball in high school.

Dave’s coaching abilities and insights about life also come from his near-death experience. Dave was in a terrible automobile accident between his freshman and junior year in college when a drunk friend, driving 65 miles per hour, missed a turn. In the ensuing accident, the overturned car pinned Dave Austin’s legs. He then had a near-death experience which he will share with us, which changed his life forever and made him who he is today.

Utah IANDS is fortunate to have best-selling author and Olympic coach Dave Austin as our speaker. Please join us and invite your family, friends, and business associates to join us for this live, online Zoom event. Click on this link just before 7 PM, Friday, May 28, 2021, to hear Dave Austin‘s near-death experience.

Dave Austin brings out the best in his clients, many of which are the elite and professional athletes you watch on T.V. every day. He will help us bring out the best in ourselves when he speaks to Utah IANDS.

Shawna Ristic presented Friday, June 25, 2021

As a child, Shawna was always sensitive to the spiritual nature of the world. She was aware of spirits and other metaphysical phenomena. Shawna was troubled by her experiences and attempted to shut them out. After her NDE those talents expanded into a new world for her.

At the age of 19, on Christmas day in 1993, Shawna Ristic was in a horrific automobile accident that left her in a coma for weeks. During her coma, she was lifted out of her body by beings of light. She was introduced to a council of 12 light beings who gave her a choice to return to earth or remain with them. The council gave her instructions, guidance, and training regarding her work if she chose to return. She came back with a new life’s calling and outlook and an awareness of the incredible fabric of love that connects everything.

Shawna was silent about her NDE before becoming involved with IANDS. She now delights in telling others about what she experienced and how it might help us overcome the troubles of this world.

Shawna works as a healer in Santa Cruz and Los Gatos, Calfornia.

Martin Tanner and Lynn Johnson

Presented July 23, 2021

Ty Briggs has contracted an illness and cannot speak. Martin Tanner and Lynn Johnson will speak instead, recounting their favorite and most consequential near-death stories. They are both polished and exciting presenters. Ty Briggs will address us at another time.

Martin Tanner is an attorney and local talk show host who, with Lynn Johnson, a psychologist, are two of the original founders of our local IANDS chapter.

Good news! We will resume our in-person meetings in August.

Krista Gorman presented August 27, 2021

Krista Gorman is a Physician Assistant who, only three weeks after graduating from her PA training program in 2000, suffered cardiopulmonary arrest and died while in labor with her daughter. During the eight minutes she was without a detectable heartbeat, she experienced a NDE in which she underwent a profound reconnection with what she describes as the Divine love of God. She describes her experience in her book, “I Died and Learned How to Live”.

Rev. Bill McDonald presented Sep 24, 2021

Rev. Bill McDonald is an International Inspirational Speaker, Best-Selling Author, Minister, Documentary Film Advisor, decorated war veteran, Award Winning Poet, Meditation Teacher, Artist, World-Wide Advocate for Veterans, and so much more.

He has been on a continuous spiritual journey, spanning slightly over 7 decades. His whole life has been a mystical trip in search of self-discovery and the purpose of life. He has written many books about his spiritually transformative experiences and his 3 “near-death-experiences” including supernatural events during his combat tour-of-duty in the Vietnam War (1966-67).

His autobiography Warrior A Spiritual Odyssey takes us on a life quest for love, understanding, forgiveness and enlightenment, including his experiences as an Army door-gunner/crew-chief on a Huey helicopter during the Vietnam War. He was wounded, shot down many times and almost captured.

His follow-up book Alchemy of a Warrior’s Heart “continues his mystical journey including four trips to India for even more profound experiences with holy men, miracles and his personal relationship with the Divine.

He has been written about in magazines and newspapers and featured in several documentary films. He is the founder and president of Spiritual Warrior Ministries, founder of The Military Writer’s Society of America & The American Authors Association.

He is currently working with half a dozen non-profits assisting on everything from suicide prevention, PTSD issues for veterans, to world peace organizations. He was awarded many medals and ribbons in the Vietnam War including: The Distinguished Flying CrossThe Bronze Star, The Purple Heart Medal14 Air Medals, The Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry and more.

His website

French Filmmaker Anthony Chene’s documentary on Rev. Bill McDonald

Rev, Bill’s YouTube Channel

Scott Drummond presented Friday, Ocober 22, 2021

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Although it happened some time ago, Scott was coaxed into sharing it for the first time by a friend, who knew of Scott’s NDE, and recorded Scott describing it on YouTube. Over 14 million people have seen Scott’s YouTube description of his NDE. Scott decided to share it because during the 20 minutes he was pronounced dead, Scott experienced the other side. He is not afraid of dying and wants to share his experience now, to give hope and a message of joy to people struggling and afraid during the Covid-19 pandemic.

Dr. Joyce Brown presented Friday, November 26, 2021

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Dr. Joyce Hunt Brown has struggled with health problems and a desire to end her life from a young age. Her health declined to where she was mostly bedridden and barely able to walk. Desiring to die, she passed suddenly to the other side and discovered that her desire to end her life did not bring her the peace and bliss for which Joyce had hoped. In her NDE, Joyce also saw the cause of her drastic decline in health, corrected it, and had a rapid recovery, although she still struggles with many health issues.

In her NDE, Joyce saw how suicidal thoughts and attitudes regarding suicide can cause great harm and focuses now on helping people understand and avoid those dangers.

Her websites are and

Some of her books available on Amazon are God’s Heavenly Answers, and Near Death Survivor Conquers ALS, Blindness, Depression, Grief, Suicide & More